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hady 
Monday, February 15, 2010
guy's i was discussing with Dany an eventual expo-show like the one we used to do in mont la salle.
but this time we will try to do it in Biel area in beirut .
its a huge logistics :)
? would you guys like to do this?????
please advice
hisham # 1
Tuesday, February 16, 2010
Great idea,
could u elaborate more!!Question



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akaram # 2
Tuesday, February 16, 2010
It will involve flying or just static display ? The area is huge but has loads of elecrical and lighting poles, no ?



fouad.raphael # 3
Tuesday, February 16, 2010
The fact that Biel in Beirut falls within the Beirut Int'l Airport Control Zone area might be something to take into consideration! javascript:emoticon('Rolling')
Nonetheless the idea sounds GREAT !!!javascript:emoticon('Thumbs')


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hady # 4
Tuesday, February 16, 2010
i am still not sure if we can do it in biel or not but its a great location .. Alexy i am not thinking about the parking of biel but in the region of biel . ( we have to take a permit to do the show there ).
the expo-show is not static we will be exhibiting our models , and there will be also an airshow, like the old days in mont-la-salle.
Fouad: you are right that this region is whithin birut intel airport thats why there will be a lot of communications between the airport, army, beirut municipality, and so on .
it is still an idea till now, if we are all inn then we will have to meet and work on this project.
please guys if interested i will open a poll and i hope will be all inn.



A helicopter in flight is a “bunch of spare parts flying in close formation.”
Pete # 5
Tuesday, February 16, 2010
Hady , i don't think that this project in Biel is feasible Exclamation First for Security reasons the location : This area is what is called in aviation the " Holding Pattern " for all air traffic approaching Beirut airport ... Then Frequencies jamming due to our situation , hazard to population road traffic etc... Beside of our lack of discipline in the group and the lack of training and experience to organize such expo-show in such place Wink We should try this some where else Exclamation



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akaram # 6
Wednesday, February 17, 2010
Yes, I also think that it is not a very good idea to do that ! Why should we go so public with our hobby at a time when all eyes are wide open on us and everybody is trying to rob us or make money on our backs or create problems of all sorts. Better stay away from all that and we can always do some nice events and competitions between each other like Limbo, aerobatics competition (flying sequences of figures and having judges to put points) far away from sight of the public. The problem is that lately almost everybody is deflated and nobody is showing enthusiasm for anything ...


hady # 7
Wednesday, February 17, 2010
Peter- Alexy if you read all the post you will undestand that we will be communicating with all intel ( AIRPORT , ARMY, MUNICIPALITY ETC..... )
as for flying its going to be an airshow , we will fly by sequance , some of us wont fly as they will be helping other pilots. in the show.
no one will fly unless its their turn and sequance.
it is just an idea if you dont want to participate please reply to the poll .
eyes are open already Alexy, and it was also opened since 1980 if not more . without mantioning the tv show that already filmed us .
anyway we can be optimistic or pessimistic, i repeat myself its an idea and if we are going to be negative so lets leave it here and if you want to be optimistic then we can do a lot out of it.
so many people dont know the hobby and so many people would like to join, why dont we share our hobby ??
anyway its up to you guy's


A helicopter in flight is a “bunch of spare parts flying in close formation.”
mounirz # 8
Wednesday, February 17, 2010
the idea is great, but i agree with the captain the location is not that good, even though ur going to talk to the intel ( AIRPORT , ARMY, MUNICIPALITY ETC..... ) thus the place's location is dangerous. i personally propose that it would be done in "tall el za3tar" it will be much easier to talk with the army, and a safer place to fly the runway is 330m long and 50 m wide with no obsticales whatsoever. the place can be divided into zones for spectators display, and pilots area. ohh and jets can participate too. over the dekweneh will be a no fly zone. the location is near and can fit to as many people as u want. that would be nice, and safe at the same time.
after all im just suggesting


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akaram # 9
Wednesday, February 17, 2010
I would just like to comment on the last sentence:
"so many people dont know the hobby and so many people would like to join, why dont we share our hobby ??"

1- Where are you going to accomodate them ?
2- The more people are going to be in, the more commercial our hobby is going to become, the more problems we are going to face.
3- Increasing the number of people in the hobby may lead to incidents never seen before, it will start presenting a huge threat in terms of safety and security at the level of the country and eventually the hobby altogether will be banned.



DanyG. # 10
Wednesday, February 17, 2010
Very tough subject indeed.Spinny

Well the idea we got was initially to recreate a certain motivation that gave us a beautiful spirit of cooperation and the satisfaction of achieving a representation full of colors and fun in a timely well organized manner.
It has been done several times even with very little means and material and believe that we have much more to show and produce greater shows that public will appreciate and learn to respect Wink

Where and when are subjects to discuss, but first believe we have to agree on the principal, i.e whether we embark in such venture or we don't.

What i can tell you and for those who have experienced it know exactly what i am saying, this is a lot of work, responsability, time consuming work which is consumed in a couple of hours, but the end result is an unforgettable wonderful memory ThumbsThumbsThumbs


hady # 11
Wednesday, February 17, 2010
alexy if you dont want to share your hobby so why did you join in the first place ?
there are many people flying other then the one you know ( baadaran, Faraya, amaz, Hamat, marina, and many other places we still not aware of .

i thought about biel area, we can think about any other feasible place.
Pete we will have to discuss many issues with you as you are our tutor . i am sure that we can do wonders all together.
i also dont want to add people in amaz as it is becoming very congested.
what we did back in 1986 and in 1994 was really out of this world. people who didnt participate back then in the event wont know what i am talking about, but believe me it is worth it .


A helicopter in flight is a “bunch of spare parts flying in close formation.”
skywalker # 12
Wednesday, February 17, 2010
The idea is great but the way I see it,it will take lots of work (organization, insurance coverage for the event, sponsoring, marketing, uniforms) anything less then this would come out shallow. The idea is viable and could be discussed further (maybe we can organize the first event in Amaz and see how it goes).MArketing is essential and maybe we can add some area for selling unneeded stuff etc


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Pete # 13
Thursday, February 18, 2010
Hady , i have read your post till the end and many times Shocked and i invite you to read my first comment and realize what i said Rolling It's only the location " Biel " that i don't agree with FOR SECURITY reasons ONLY Exclamation Frequency jamming exist in every politician or Za3im's car Exclamation So maybe only those using 2.4 could fly safely Question
I have been talking about such expo-show since 5 years and no body cared Exclamation We couldn't even meet ONCE to discuss seriously any mater Exclamation I even suggested to bring over ( on my account ) some world well known pilots in all discipline and nobody cared Sad



I Dont know what Im Doing but im an Expert at it ! Whether im right or im wrong I'm still the captain!
hady # 14
Thursday, February 18, 2010
hi pete
you are right, there are frequency jamming and its a big problem. i remember back in mont-la-sale we used to have many problems because of this.
Biel area was the first place i thought of but its not the only space . we could go somewhere else also. we should discuss this matter.
maybe we can have a gathering one night and discuss all these issue .
( I even suggested to bring over ( on my account ) some world well known pilots in all discipline and nobody cared.)
we do care and this is a dream to be able to get international people to fly in lebanon Smile but not on your account , but from the sponsors .
please captain setup a date at your convenience for a first meeting so we can discuss these issues


A helicopter in flight is a “bunch of spare parts flying in close formation.”
hady # 15
Thursday, February 18, 2010
skywalker you are right its a big logistics and its a lot of hassle but we are 30 peoples and if each one of us is helping we can achieve it.


A helicopter in flight is a “bunch of spare parts flying in close formation.”
Pete # 16
Thursday, February 18, 2010
Hady to set up a date for a meeting , we should see first who are the persons interested by this event Exclamation Personally i suggest a conference room in Siwar because it's a midway with plenty of parking places . I am ready any day of the week except on week ends " flying days Smile " . So timing depends on the persons interested by such happening Exclamation



I Dont know what Im Doing but im an Expert at it ! Whether im right or im wrong I'm still the captain!
HAJJ # 17
Friday, February 19, 2010
HEY GUYS...
INTERESTED...INTERESTING...AND VERY NOSTALGIC.



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hady # 18
Friday, February 19, 2010
pete i have posted a poll to see who is inn or out . sunday will have the results , i am optimistic though .
but regardless, we can set a date and meet, who ever wants to come is welcome,
purpose of the meeting is to bullet some tasks .



A helicopter in flight is a “bunch of spare parts flying in close formation.”
akaram # 19
Friday, February 19, 2010
Hady, from the poll I don't think you can know who is in and who is not.


DanyG. # 20
Friday, February 19, 2010
well let's set a meeting invite all and see who's interested!! What about that??Laughing


hady # 21
Sunday, February 21, 2010
good idea dany
alexy poll will give you a figure only



A helicopter in flight is a “bunch of spare parts flying in close formation.”
akaram # 22
Sunday, February 21, 2010
From my side, I will take a hyperactive role in preparations and organizing, you can count on me if you decide to proceed, not sure about what I will be flying though ...


DanyG. # 23
Sunday, February 21, 2010
walaw ya Alexei, minium the BoomerangThumbs


hady # 24
Monday, February 22, 2010
guys we should all meet and discuss all aspects .
what do you think of meeting on thursday 25th of this month ?


A helicopter in flight is a “bunch of spare parts flying in close formation.”
akaram # 25
Monday, February 22, 2010
where and when ?



hady # 26
Friday, February 26, 2010
are we going to continue discussing the exposhow ??
it seems that no one is really interested in doing an effort other then pete, alexy hady and dany
please guys help in this matter ...


A helicopter in flight is a “bunch of spare parts flying in close formation.”
fouad.raphael # 27
Friday, February 26, 2010
Looks like this week end is gonna be rainy, so it might be a good opportunity for all interested fellows to get together for the discussions you previously suggested.
Maybe if you set a place and time as per Alexi's post, things would proceed smoother?


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mounirz # 28
Friday, February 26, 2010
i'm in guys, i can help in all ways i can.
i would like to propose an indoor flying session/meeting to discuss this matter? if not just name the place and time and i'll try my best to be there



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hady # 29
Friday, February 26, 2010
maybe we can meet on saturday or sunday this week but i prefer if we meet somewhere without flying as will be concentrated on the subject.
i would appreciate if the captain can set the time, date and location .


A helicopter in flight is a “bunch of spare parts flying in close formation.”
fouad.raphael # 30
Friday, February 26, 2010
You may want to contact the Captain by phone, as I believe he might not access the web on week-ends as he goes up to the mountain around noon time!


I am the incarnated perpetual proof that gravity is real and does exist!
hady # 31
Friday, February 26, 2010
GUY'S TOMORROW SATURDAY 26 OF FEBRUARY YOU ARE ALL INVITED TO BE PRESENT IN THE CONFERANCE ROOM IN SIWAR .
SUBJECT : THE EXPOSHOW .
MEETING WILL BE AT 14H 30
PLEASAE BE THERE YOUR PRESENCE IS A MAST


A helicopter in flight is a “bunch of spare parts flying in close formation.”
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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